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>> the jobs number and inflation are improving, but i think he'll find plenty of things to do. that it does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." remember, follow the show on social media @mitchellreports and you can rewatch the best parts of our show anytime on youtube. just go to msnbc.com/andrea. "chris jansing reports" with ana cabrera starts right now. hello, i'm ana cabrera in for chris jansing live at msnbc headquarters in new york city. breaking from the boss, vice president kamala harris set to roll out her economic vision later this week. how much or how little is she preparing to distance herself from president biden and his policies? plus, israel on offense and defense at the same time, launching new attacks in gaza, while bracing for an assault from iran and hezbollah. iran's supreme leader today rejecting any notion they might

back down. so what happens now. and any minute now, nasa will give us an update about the fate of those starliner astronauts that were supposed to be in space for a little more than a week, but have still been stuck there now for more than two months. are they any closer to coming home? but we start with vice president kamala harris ratcheting up her efforts to do something her boss, president biden has never been able to do, chip away at donald trump's advantage on voters' number one issue, the economy. she may have gotten a little help earlier today, but that new data showing inflation cooling more than expected, dropping to its lowest rate in three and a half years, but for harris, this could be a political high wire act. "axios" is reporting vp harris is crafting plans to break with president biden on issues where he's unpopular, like the economy, even as she continues to govern alongside him. the two will be together at a white house event tomorrow. a new ap poll shows the economy

is still one of the issues helping trump. you can see here he leads among adults by a seven-point margin, and he's expected to make it the center piece of his rally in north carolina this afternoon, although it remains to be seen if he can stick to a consistent message, focused on policy as republican allies have been urging. i want to bring in msnbc political analyst tim miller who's worked on jeb bush's 2016 campaign and hosts the bulwark podcast, and robby mook, hillary clinton's former campaign manager and currently president of the house majority pac. robby, how tricky will it be for vice president harris to remain part of this administration and appear with the president and then try to split with him and his policies literally the next day? >> well, i don't think it's quite as black and white as that. i mean, she is her own person. she works with the president, but she has her own plan for the

future. and i think at the end of the day, the contest in this race is about which candidate has a plan for the future. which candidate do voters feel can bring us into a better future, and the problem that donald trump has had all along is he has a pretty icky past that his time in the white house was full of instability, recklessness. we all remember him talking about drinking bleach to cure covid, and so harris has this incredible opportunity to have all the advantages of incumbency, right? she walked into a campaign with a big bank account, staff, all the things ready to go, but i think the voters are willing to hear her out and let her chart her own course, and that's both an opportunity, but you know, it's also a challenge. she's got to go get that done. i think the time to do that is running out, but this is the perfect time to unveil those policies as she goes into the

convention. >> tom -- or tim, i want to read for you part of what the "new york times" said today about vice president harris's plan going forward. the times reports she will lay out an approach, relatively light on details. it will shift emphasis from mr. biden's focus on job creation and made in america manufacturing, and toward efforts to rein in the cost of living. but it will rarely break from mr. biden on substance. that strategy reflects the advice economic aides have given ms. harris to be clear and bold in talking about the economy, but not overly specific. tim, what to you make of that strategy, and is this the kind of plan you think she can ride for another 12 weeks? >> it's only 12 weeks, right? and so i do think that's an opportunity for her, in addition to being a channel, right? there's fewer time for, you know, having to deal with having different challenges had she gone through a primary. you know, other democratic challengers trying to poke holes in plans, et cetera.

a lot of times democrats traditionally have gotten a little too bogged down in plans and white papers and republican campaigns have been a little bit better about being breezier on details and focusing on thematics. you know, whether that's right or wrong, it is something that helps -- tends to help in a campaign setting, and so i think that she can. i think that the challenge just listen to robby talk is she's got to talk about the future. there's to be enough meat on the bones for what is the plan for the future. how are we going to reduce costs, either at the grocery store, in house, i noticed in her first ad she mentioned reducing housing costs, which is really smart. it's an issue a lot of people are dealing with right now. donald trump on the other side, he wants her to carry all the baggage that was keeping biden's numbers down on this. that will be the push and pull on the campaigns with her talking about how she's not going back and trump doing his best in between his weird tangents to try to make her carry the biden baggage on economic issues particularly on inflation.

>> nbc's dasha burns is joining us in asheville, north carolina, the site of trump's afternoon rally. dasha, what's trump going to say today? what's his economic message to the country? >> reporter: you could see his visit to a state like north carolina as playing a bit of defense given this has been a republican stronghold for the last few elections. he won here in both 2016 and in 2020. as harris is trying to open the appertire in states like north carolina, in states like georgia that were seen as out of play for democrats when president biden was on the ticket, they're not taking any states, any votes for granted and he's here to deliver a message on the economy. this is a stay that has had a republican legislature as well, mostly republican-held positions across the state with the exception of governor roy cooper, who is a democrat, but the trump campaign will say, look, a lot of businesses in

north carolina are booming in places like raleigh, in places like charlotte, and he will say that that is a result of republican policies. he knows that right now, for now, he's still pulling better than democrats, than harris, certainly better than biden on the economy. harris trying to chip away at that, but he's going to try to deliver that message is and contrast what he can do on the economy versus his opponent. the question is -- this is what the campaign wants him to do. what he theoretically wants to do, but what the plan is for the message today and what the actual execution looks like with former president trump, you never know how aligned those will be. just this morning, he was asked about some of the talking points lately that his campaign is not so thrilled about him questioning the size of kamala harris's crowds, for example, other conspiracies around a coup of president biden. take a listen to what he said as he was voting early in west palm beach this morning. >> we have the biggest crowds ever in the history of politics. we have crowds that nobody's

ever seen before, and we continue to have that. we have a level of enthusiasm that nobody's seen before. they want to make america great again. that's what's happening. we're going to make it great again. right now we have a failing nation. we're in a failing nation, and become in many ways a third world nation, and we're not going to let that happen. >> reporter: and ana, you've heard his allies, people like kellyanne conway, like vivek ramaswamy, like nikki haley who of course was an opponent but now has endorsed him, go on television in the last few days and say you are not going to win if you're talking about crowd sizes, if you're talking about race, if you're launching these personal attacks on harris. talk about her record, tie her to president biden, that is the more successful path forward. the question is how much will that message resonate with the guy that is in control of the message, former president trump, ana. >> dasha burns reporting for us. thank you. so president biden made some news just a few minutes ago when he dropped by the white house

creator economy conference and was asked about inflation. here's what he said. >> has the u.s. beat inflation, mr. president? >> yes, yes, yes. i told you we're going to have a soft landing. we're going to have a soft landing. my policies are working, start writing that way, okay? >> mr. president, did you know your son reached out to -- >> robby, what do you make of the president essentially declaring victory here? >> i'm not an economist, obviously, the numbers speak for themselves, and they are good, but i think the election is going to be very divorced from economic figures. obviously the stock market doesn't represent the economy, and although inflation is coming down, the pain of inflation is still going to be very present in people's lives. you know, when i'm talking to people or you look at it in a focus group, people talk about how things are just a lot more expensive than they used to be five years ago. and what's really encouraging to me is to see that harris is

actively going to take that on. it's hard for a president to go out and immediately lower prices. that's not how our country works, how our economy works. i do believe both candidates need to present a credible plan for a way that they could try to get prices lower, and i think this is actually -- i totally agree with tim's point. i think democrats tend to get in the weeds and want to do our fancy white papers. i think this is actually a place where trump's flippant attitude and his lack of detail is probably to his detriment. when he says, you know, by tomorrow i'll make everything 10% cheaper, it's just not credible. so i'm interested to see what he says today and, you know, see how these dueling plans match up. >> and again, the numbers just this morning, 2.9% inflation. the lowest we've seen in the last three years. 3.6% wage growth, so people are earning more than they're having to pay for some of these items. tim, is it enough for trump to

just channel ronald reagan and ask voters if they're better off than they were four years ago? >> not really because we were all locked in our rooms four years ago, so you know, you're better off than you were five years ago doesn't have quite the same ring to it. so i don't think so. he has offered some specificity on his plan, and that is a hugely inflationary tariff on everything. that's what i'm going to be looking at today. is he going to continue with his protectionist tariff policy, and i think that is -- that would give an opportunity to the harris campaign on friday to talk about how he actually would increase prices with his plans, and you know, potentially have an olive branch out to my people, have the free market republicans who don't like the former republicans who don't like donald trump who are going to be key swing voters north carolina and in georgia. i think that's something to watch for on the economic side as well. >> tim miller and robby mook, please stay with us. now to what has become a new hurricane that is hammering puerto rico right now with tons of rain and up to 75 miles per

hour winds. that wind toppling trees in just seconds. one man in the caribbean posting that video, large palm tree collapsing on cars that are in a parking lot. officials are worried about the relentless heavy rain warning of flash floods. already some parts of eastern puerto rico are submerged. you can see the wind whipping over those water logged roads. videos showing water overflowing, spilling from one roadway right onto another, and splintered poles coupled with broken power lines laying across the middle of these streets. the center of the storm is expected to move north and in the atlantic today potentially nearing bermuda by the end of the week. in just 90 seconds, new escalations today in gaza. what sources are telling nbc news about a possible retaliatory attack from iran. we're live in tel aviv after a very short break. in tel aviv aa veryho srt break nothing dims mt like a migraine. with nurtec odt, i found relief. the only migraine medication

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says it has no plans to attend. a representative telling our sister network sky news that israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu doesn't want to end the war, and looming over these negotiations is iran, which is still deciding how and when to respond to the death of hamas's political leader in tehran, an assassination it blames on israel. nbc's ellison barber is reporting from tel aviv. also with us, aaron david miller, senior fellow at the carnegie endowment for international peace and a former arab israeli negotiator at the state department. ellison, what can you tell us about the situation in gaza right now ahead of those critical cease fire talks? >> reporter: i mean, ana, the truth is it's what it has been like really for the last 11 months. we can show you some video that's been taken within the last 24 hours. i do want to warn viewers it's graphic, it's upseing. this has been the reality inside gaza for the better part of 11

months now. people carrying out body bags after body bags after body bags. i mean, we have seen this since october israeli air strikes in the area. israel says they are targeting hamas command centers, hamas infrastructure, hamas militants, but oftentimes we see things like this, children badly wounded, children that are on the ground left alone crying oftentimes, and we saw this over the weekend, children who are the only surviving members of their families. i was looking through some text messages that i had with a contact inside of gaza. i've stayed in touch with him since about october 9th, shortly after this war started. i want to read you some of the messages we've been sending each other. i periodically send a text like this one, just checking in, how are you holding up? the thing he replies, he starts his messages the same way almost every time. i'm still alive. it is hard to escape death every day, and another more recent.

he said i'm still alive. my mother needs treatment. she was injured in an israeli air strike. i'm afraid to lose her. pray for us. in another he said to me, i just wish to live normally like other teenagers in the world, at least not to be afraid to die like this. i've had so many dreams that i haven't accomplished yet, and now i don't know if i will be able to. 400,000 people according to gaza's health ministry have died since this war began inside of gaza. they don't distinguish between civilians and combatants. they say the majority of those are women and children and often civilians or at least high numbers of women and children. israel has said they try to target hamas militants. they claim they have killed at least half of hamas's military leadership, but that information can be difficult at times to verify, and is often disputed by hamas and other officials in other groups with inside of gaza. the reality that we see again and again, and this is true, ana, of really every war is that civilians are the most impacted by what is happening.

and that's true in gaza and also in israel. i think back to an interview that we did with the parents of her issue goldberg poland, he was abducted. he is still inside of gaza. they support a cease fire. they want to see a cease fire. she says we have believed a cease fire is necessary since the beginning of all of this. the numbers she gave me were this, seven, that's how many hostages have been rescued since this war began. 7 out of 251. 100 plus released at the end of november. that was because of diplomatic cease fire negotiations. they are hoping soon there will be a breakthrough both for the civilians inside of gaza and for the hostages. it's entirely unclear if that is possible. ana. >> it's all so tragic, so heartbreaking. thank you, ellison barber. >> aaron, hamas says it already agreed to the u.s.-backed peace proposal a month ago, but a

middle eastern official tells nbc news that when the terms were taken back to israel, prime minister netanyahu moved the goal post and proposed new conditions. netanyahu denies that. how can the biden exert pressure to get this deal done? >> ana, thanks for having me. negotiations work when there's urgency. when all parties are in a hurry to cut a deal, no matter how difficult the choices may be. right now you have three clocks. the biden clock is ticking very fast understandably, a cease fire is key to preventing a major escalation between israel and hezbollah and iran, but the reality cruel and inconvenient i think for many supporters of one side or the other, is that neither sinwar nor benjamin netanyahu right now are in any hurry to do this deal. their end games, ana, are mutually

mutually irreconcilable. netanyahu and probably the government of israel cannot agree to that. so the best you're going to be able to do, and if you could get this, it would be short of a miracle, is a phase one implementation of the three-phase plan. a limited release of hostages for a large number of palestinian prisoners, maybe 50 to 1 and a six-week cease fire. if you could get that -- and i still wouldn't rule out that as a possibility. maybe not tomorrow, but perhaps by the end of august. but that's the cruel reality. the people who are in a hurry are the 2.3 million palestinians in gaza, the hhostages, 115 of them the israelis estimate, 50 perhaps dead, their bodies taken from gaza. they died in captivity, and their families. we have a fundamental absence of

leadership making wise decisions based on the respective security and prosperity of their respective citizens. >> like you said, it seems like these different parties to the negotiations are at an impasse right now, and in the meantime, you have an added factor here with iran still weighing how to respond to the assassination of that hamas official in tehran, in a way that doesn't harm the cease fire talks according to a senior u.s. official. where is the line on that? what do you see as the possible options iran may be considering? >> you know, it's been those two weeks since the israelis. they haven't taken responsibility for it. the israeli assassination of ishmael taniyah in iran. i think ironically enough, they

are waiting to see whether or not anything could be accomplished in doha or a few days after. i suspect barring a cease fire at some point you're going to get an iranian and hezbollah retaliation. hezbollah for israel's killing of the senior hezbollah commander in southern suburbs beirut and the iranians in response to haniyeh being killed in their capital, which has been to say the least a fundamental reflection of their inability to protect perhaps even their own leaders. so i think that's coming, and that means basically the possibility of a serious escalation, should the iranian, should the iranian attack be too successful. >> there are no happy endings here, ana.

there's no hollywood endings, even if you got a cease fire. it doesn't get to the core of resolving the key issues either between israel and hezbollah in the north or between israel and gaza and the broader issue of israel and palestinians. >> there's such a history here, it's all very complex. thank you for laying out the reality of the situation for us. aaron david miller, i always appreciate your insights. still to come, an ohio police officer accused of fatally shooting a pregnant woman now facing murder charges. what we're expecting from today's hearing when we come back. you're watching msnbc. you're wa. each day is a unique blend of people to see and things to do. that's why you choose glucerna to help manage blood sugar response. uniquely designed with carbsteady. glucerna. bring on the day.

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get the fastest connection to paris with xfinity. welcome back. any minute now, we expect lauers to enter a plea for an ohio police officer indicted on murder charges for the fatal shooting of a 21-year-old pregnant woman, takiya young. he faces four counts of murder, four counts of felony assault, and two counts of involuntary manslaughter. the charges come nearly a year after young, a black woman was confronted by police in a grocery store parking lot after being suspected of shoplifting. police have released body camera footage of this incident. i need to warn you, it may be disturbing to watch. >> out of the car. >> all right. >> out of the car. >> get out of the car. then get out. no. then get out.

>> get out of the [ bleep ] car. >> get out of the car! shots fired. >> shots fired. >> stop, stop the car! >> nbc's adrienne broaddus is following this for us. fill us in the on the hearing. what's the latest? >> connor grub is expected to appear in court via video. his attorney telling me he will enter a not guilty plea on behalf of his client. this after a grand jury indicted connor on multiple charges that you just mentioned, including murder, felonious assault, and involuntary manslaughter. this all stems from an incident last summer involving ta'kiya young, that 21-year-old pregnant mother who was accused of shoplifting. now, before the shooting, the body camera video shows another office telling young to get out of her car multiple times. she refuses, and then the car

starts to move forward, and that's when grub fired a single shot through the windshield hitting young and killing her. her family says these charges are one step toward justice. >> i just want him to know he was wrong to kill her. it didn't take that. he didn't never have to pull that gun on her ever. it wasn't called for. he was a bully with a badge, and that was not right. >> l and just moments ago, i received a statement from the attorney representing grubb, mark collins, and it says in part, the evidence will show that our client's actions were justified. when there is video evidence that officer grubb was being hit by a moving vehicle. meanwhile, the judge is expected to set bond at that hearing today. grubb, ana, has been on administrative paid leave since the incident happened. back to you.

>> adrienne broaddus, thank you for that report. in philadelphia, the plight of gun violence is coming into full view. the city now has the highest per capita gun murder rate of the largest ten cities in america, more than chicago and new york combined. 692 shooting victims in philly so far this year alone according to city data, and of those shooting victims, 56% are 30 years or younger, and 96% are black or hispanic. nbc's yasmin vossoughian went to philadelphia to dig into these staggering numbers and what can be done to help. so you spoke with victims about this gun violence. what did you hear? >> it's unbelievable the way in which these young kids, these teenagers have to live day in and day out, and these mothers and fathers. a term i learned when i was down there called anticipatory trauma. it is what moms and dads are facing along with these kids where they anticipate at any moment they will get a phone call that someone close to them

has died because of gun violence. has been shot, and then there's ptsd. these kids walking around philly wondering if a car drives by, they hear a loud noise, that could be a gun pointed at them. that is their life right now. summertime, spending it inside all day every day because they are afraid they'll lose their life the second they step out of the house. their parents texting them constantly going to school because their parents are afraid even going to school they could lose them. that is their life. that's the reality, and it is incumbent upon us, i feel like we've dropped the bomb reporting on these types of stories because maybe they're not as salacious or it's happening so often that it seems normalized, and they feel that in that community. they're not getting the attention and the resources they need to get out of it. let's take a listen to some of what we heard and then we'll talk more on the other side.

>> do you have a fear that something's going to happen to you when you're out? >> sure, yes, definitely have a fear. >> do you think it's fair that you got to live like this? >> no, not at all. >> my brother died like two months ago. two months ago now. >> two months ago? >> yeah, two months ago. he got shot coming out of his house, but it's like there's nothing that we can really do to like escape it. so we like have to adapt to it and try to stay out of the way. >> i'm 18 years old. >> i be feeling it every time, like never get normalized to me. >> 17, 18 years old a friend dies, they can't even cry about it anymore because it's happening so often. as we were showing that piece, you asked me why is it happening so much in philly, these are predominantly black and brown communities. there's a 70 block radius in which ten shootings have happened since 2015. it was an area that was red lined by the government in the

1930s to keep black communities back, and they have remained disinvested. it's about a lack of resources. you go to the high school there for that region, there's a longer piece i showed on hallie jackson's show on our streaming sister network news now. there's a high school mt. in the neighborhood with a library, sprawling library, empty bookshelves everywhere. what are these kids supposed to do? how do they get out? through education? no, the resources aren't there. through camps? no, the resources aren't there. that lies the problem. there's no investment in these communities. >> it's important to shed light as you have discussed. thank you for going there. thank you for bringing us that the reporting, yasmin vossoughian. coming up, brand new signs of kamala harris's momentum in critical battleground states. we'll explain next. attleground s we'll explain next hats. my restaurants, my tattoo shop... and i also have a non-profit. but no matter what business i'm in... my network and my tech need to keep up. thank you, verizon business. (kevin) now our businesses get fast and reliable internet

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there are strong new signs that enthusiasm for kamala harris is building in the states that will decide the election. new polling from the cook political report shows the vice president leading or tied with donald trump in six of seven battleground states. still within the margin of error here, but this reflects a significant shift, and "the new york times" reports that new voter registration data in two swing states has the evidence that harris candidacy has energized democratic voters. this comes as the campaign is trying to capitalize on this enthusiasm with the announcement of what the dnc is calling a dem

palooza. it offers a chance for democrats to hear from party leaders without having to be in the convention hall, and while they're at it, they can get friendship bracelets or a kamala harris manicure. back with us to discuss, tim miller and robby mook. tim, what's your takeaway from this new battleground polling? how significant is it? >> i'm kind of interested in the manicure. >> i wanted to make a comment on that, i held back. >> yeah. it obviously looks good for her. it's a couple of weeks out of date, and the numbers are in her direction. they released it today, but they took the poll a couple of weeks ago. so look, i think that there's going to be more good polls coming out for her. i don't think this is surpriing of what we've seen in the polling side and the enthusiasm side, is exactly what every poll event that has been taken all year told us which is that voters weren't exciting about their choices.

when joe biden stepped aside, kamala harris stepped in and she brought a lot of enthusiasm with her, brought a lot of excitement with her. i think in addition to the excitement from the base, which we've seen at these events, these huge ralrallies, the othe thing in that cook poll, the double haters, the voters that didn't like trump or biden, right now they're going for kamala harris 54-24. so she's just -- she's already got about half of these voters, you know, that were the key swing voters, you know, before the debate last month, so i think that's -- you know, shouldn't be a surprise that the numbers are showing what they are. >> robby, "the new york times" reports that after president biden got out of the race, weekly democratic registrations outnumbered republican registrations in north carolina and in pennsylvania, it was the largest democratic margin in new registrations since late 2023. what does that tell you? >> yeah, i mean, on the ground you can just feel it.

i know here in my own community, i was at my -- the local democrats' meeting a week ago, and it was the biggest turnout i'd ever seen, the parking lot was full. i couldn't find a place to park, and i think just, you know, when you're walking around talking to people right now, there's an excitement that just wasn't there. so -- and i think it will continue, you know. i think it will continue this week. i think it will continue through the convention, and then this race will get a little bit harder, you know. harris has said she's going to start to do interviews. the debate will come up, so i think what's important for the campaign right now is to galvanize, calcify, harden all this support, mobilize people to volunteer, but anticipate that it will get tighter. these polls are, you know, as tim was saying, they're expected. what it all adds up to at the end of the day is a race that looks very similar to 2020. 2020 felt very good if you look at the electoral college numbers, but the upper midwest

and arizona and georgia, these were very close contests and the data you're showing now, it's a close contest out there. so i think we need to continue to, you know, keep our nose to the grindstone. we're not running away from this. we're just getting it back to a dead heat. >> okay, discussion to be continued. we'll see if there's any more movement as we move forward in this election cycle. tim miller, robby mook, thank you both for sticking with us through the hour. meantime, minnesota governor tim walz will head to omaha, nebraska, for a campaign event on saturday according to a source familiar with the plans. why nebraska? well, there is a chance the presidential election could be decided there. nebraska's second congressional district, which includes omaha has one electoral vote and could play a decisive role in november by preventing an electoral college tie between vice president harris and former president trump. nbc's jacob soboroff traveled to omaha to hear from voters on

their key issues, including inequality and the cost of living. >> there was a guy named jason who responded to me on social media, and he said we should come see him at ro it, ella's, an italian bakery. >> jason odom is a marine corps veteran and now an engineer for a big tech company. a father of three, he reached out because he said he was worried about his three kids getting sent to war. >> why on earth would you respond to me and say you want to talk to me about life in omaha? >> there's a lot of people, they used to be described as, what, the silent majority. i kind of feel like that a lot of times. >> a rare electoral system could have the city in the ultimate spotlight come election night. people here call nebraska's second congressional district the blue dot. that's because it's a democratic island in a sea of republican voters, and unlike the rest of the country, only nebraska and maine award their electoral votes by congressional district. so the one electoral vote here could prevent an electoral college tie and help one candidate reach the 270 votes

needed to win. >> why'd want to meet here, rotella's italian bakery. >> it's kind of famous here in omaha. i live nearby. it's got the best bread. >> i just want to stay here just for the smell. >> inside we met karen hidalgo who told us she's also a veteran. >> me as a single parent, we would come up here from lincoln and head back because it's more affordable. >> you drive here because it's an affordable place to come. >> that two-hour round trip made perfect sense. >> if you bought those in the grocery store they'd be how much? >> 2.50 apiece. >> do you think people in power understand this is what life is like and this is why people come here. >> they can't afford -- >> i believe it has a purpose. >> which is? >> you brought me to this place and it sounds like everybody's on the same page. >> everybody is here for a reason, trying to make their dollar go as far as they can. >> how do you weigh what to do

come november? >> well, unfortunately you have to pick the best of the two options. >> for jason, that's vice president harris, but he's not convinced either party can solve increasing inequality here. >> that's what this place is partly about, right? >> this is a local business that quite literally feeds a population that may not be able to afford it otherwise. >> that's exactly right. if you don't have enough food to eat, nothing else matters. >> owner lou rotella jr. invited us into the factory attached to it. >> it occurs to me that over 103 years, this place has been open in good times and in bad times. >> yes. today everything is so expensive, we've done everything we possibly can to be able to be competitive so that way our customers can keep on going too. >> what do you think the people who are running to be our leaders should know about what life is like for people here? >> just family trying to make it, trying to make a living. >> a century old bakery where

dough stretches farther that could hold clues about what matters on election day. jacob soboroff, nbc news, omaha, nebraska. >> our thanks to jacob. up next, nasa provides an update on the two astronauts stranded in space. are we any closer to finding out when they could be coming home? you're watching msnbc. you're watching msc.nb a caring man took a walk. he saw people suffering. anxiety ran high, hatred rose. i'll prepare a feast and bring them together he thought. but some refused to join him. he was heartbroken because he wanted everyone to be filled. not with food and wine, but with compassion. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ not every decision you make will be as good as getting

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involved here. when you're talking about the lives of two astronauts, they are very very serious about trying to understand every possible detail of the risks associated with either coming back on starliner or coming back on spacex, and by the way, the astronauts are being kept informed, but they are not being asked their preference. they're being kept informed of what engineers are talking about. take a listen to the conversation just a moment ago on the nasa teleconference. >> right now, butch and suni are well engaged on board the international space station. if i was in their position, i would be really happy to be there and happy to have the extra time. it's great to be there, enjoying the environment, eating that great space food and being able to look out the window. so i know that they're making the best of this time, but i'm sure they're eager for a decision. >> yeah, that's ken bowersox, a

typo on the graphic, of nasa. he will be on the mission team that decided, we're now told the decision coming late next week or the week after. but candidly, and here's the problem, they admitted to today, they are running out of consumables on the space station. consumables mean water, food, the likes that they need to constantly replenish, of course with cargoships. they're going to be affecting the consumables. they need the docking port on the station that's being taken up by starliner, so starliner has to leave before another ship can get in, so because of all of that, they are facing almost a traffic jam of sorts. they've got to manage this quickly, within the next ten days or so, by the end of the month, for sure, they say. >> talk about a positive spin we just heard on this whole

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